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Old Jun 06, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #1
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The idea of this thread is to take a rarely used or bad elite and create a working build around it. I'm talking of elites like Archer's Signet.

So, grab an unused elite from here:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/List_of_elite_skills

And show everyone what you can come up with

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #2
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I've made some decent builds around battle rage that work well in PvE and AB. I'm at work posting from my iPod right now but I'll post them when i get home.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #3
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k heres my attempt.

[build prof=Ranger/Necromancer][Concussion Shot][Savage Shot][Distracting Shot][Marksman's Wager][Rigor Mortis][Parasitic Bond][Plague Sending][Resurrection Signet][/build]
7 or so curses, then distribute marks and exp evenly or something.

put rigor on the target, cover with parasitic, spam conc shot and savage on recharge. use d-shot for res sigs. when your health gets low spam parasitic on everyone then run about for abit or something. if you get annoying conditions on you, plague send them to someone else.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40   #4
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basing a build around a bad elite wont help that its a bad skill and you could have wasted your elite slot.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 05:19 AM // 05:19   #5
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There's a disconnect between what the OP is asking and what was chosen for the title. I actually like the topic implied by the title, which would be taking elite skills that are often unused, and have gone unused for ages, and changing them some so they might be used. I always wished Anet would do this. The more skill possibilities, especially in viable elites, the more builds that would be out there. There's a lot of dead skills for no particular reason.

I'm not sure you can take a bad elite and make it good simply through a build designed to work around it. The problem is you're still working around a bad elite. Best you can do is make an interesting concept, and then hopefully an argument that Anet would get a bit of sense and at least make most elites viable so we'd have more concept builds.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20   #6
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[skill]Lyssa's Aura[/skill]

5 Energy
1 Casting time
30 Recharge Time
Change to: For 10-24 seconds, whenever you use a hex spell, you gain 0-2 energy. When Lyssa's Aura ends, you gain 2-6 energy for each recharging hex spell.

MAJOR EDIT: So yes, I jumped to conclusions too quickly.
In that case:

Work THE REAL Lyssa's Aura with [skill]Extend Enchantments[/skill] or anything that allows enchantments to last longer.

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 05:57 AM // 05:57   #7
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[wastrels collapse] [diversion] [power drain] [shatter enchantment] [power spike] [ether feast] [inspired enchantment][resurrection signet]

my attempt.........
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 06:59 AM // 06:59   #8
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I made a gimmick with wastrels collapse once, it was something like this:

[Wastrels Collapse][Iron Palm][Falling Spider][Horns of the Ox][Stonesoul Strike][Holy Strike][Deaths Charge][Resurrection Signet] Basically knock lock them for 6 seconds + decent damage.

Never tried it, but could be fun.

EDIT: This was before eotn, just though about it and swap [Falling Spider] for [Golden Fang Strike] and [Deaths Charge] or [Resurrection Signet] for [Strength of Honor]

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 09:49 AM // 09:49   #9
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I thank LifesRestorer, RavagerOfDreams and Luminarus for being the people who read the OP. I'll update the OP to make it absolutely clear what this thread's about, so that we don't take another 17 replies before someone realizes what's going on.

EDIT: Actually, could a mod change the title to something like "Make bad elite good by creating builds around them"?

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 11:10 AM // 11:10   #10
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Warrior's Endurance and Battle Rage aren't bad elites, I think. You can try these ones:

[build name="Warrior's Endurance" prof=W/Mo axe=12 str=12][warrior's endurance][wild blow][counterattack][furious axe][power attack][you move like a dwarf!][summon ruby djinn][resurrect][/build]
Using a zealous axe.

[build name="Battle Rage" prof=W/Mo axe=12 str=12][summon ruby djinn][enraging charge][battle rage][dismember][penetrating blow][executioner's strike][lion's comfort][resurrect][/build]
Using a 20/20 axe will be fine.

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 11:46 AM // 11:46   #11
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[[email protected]][[email protected]][Auspicious [email protected]][Conjure [email protected]][Ether [email protected]][Ether [email protected]][Resurrection Signet][]

WAMMO ASSASSINATOR!!!ONE!1!
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 01:00 PM // 13:00   #12
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[build prof=Ritualist/Mesmer][Cruel was [email protected]][Ancestor's [email protected]][Clamor of [email protected]][[email protected]][[email protected]][Weapon of [email protected]][Wielder's [email protected]][Resurrection Signet][/build]

Clamor of Souls is highly inferior to Cruel Was Daoshen, so.. yes. Splinter Weapon grants more aoe and a buff for physical teammates if you want it.

I tried basing a build around post-nerf Shroud of Silence, but it's just bad.

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59   #13
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[build prof=Ranger/Mesmer][skill]Tease[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]savage shot[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]inspired enchantment[/skill][skill]dodge[/skill][skill]Antidote signet[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][/build]

Another irritating Ranger build. Strip Holy Veil with Inspired Enchantment and use Dodge to run to your target and hit Tease (for just 2-3 energy!). Maintain a defensive stance so they can't wand it off.

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26   #14
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This could be funny, more of a team build around the unused [[unyielding aura]
6x Nec with [Icy Veins][Death Nova][Blood Ritual][Dark Prison][Augury of death]
1x Monk with [Unyielding Aura][Release Enchantments][Dwayna's Sorrow][Pestilence]
1x Monk with [Unyielding Aura][Release Enchantments][Edge of Extinction]

Necro's sac, monks res with [[unyielding aura], lay down spirits, necro's select target, apply [[death nova] to themselves and [[icy veins] to enemies teleport in to a target, monks hit [[release enchantments] necro's blow up and stuff dies lol.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05   #15
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Originally Posted by mazza558
I thank LifesRestorer, RavagerOfDreams and Luminarus for being the people who read the OP. I'll update the OP to make it absolutely clear what this thread's about, so that we don't take another 17 replies before someone realizes what's going on.

EDIT: Actually, could a mod change the title to something like "Make bad elite good by creating builds around them"?
You can't make a bad elite good by basing a build around it. That just brings more proof forward to the elite being bad.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05   #16
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[skill]Scavenger's Focus[/skill][skill]Lightning Reflexes[/skill][skill]Jagged Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Horns of the OX[/skill][skill]Blades of Steel[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

10 wild
10 expertise
11 dagger

Dagger ranger!

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Old Jun 07, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #17
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Lol I remember running this in AB for fun
You must use zealous daggers
12 dagger
13 Str

W/A
Warriors endurance
leaping mantis/golden phoenix strike
Jungle/Wild strike
trampling ox/ horns of the ox
Falling spider/falling lotus
Twisted fangs
Lions comfort

You could also add in bulls strike so you could go straight into Falling spider>twisted fangs
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #18
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This is just a thread for scrubs to make bad elite skills look even worse.
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35   #19
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Why's this in Campfire now? What about PvP builds with bad elites?
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Old Jun 07, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #20
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Quote:
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This is just a thread for scrubs to make bad elite skills look even worse.
it seems like its turning into scrubs QQing ruining peoples fun.

Don't fall off your high horse.
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